Martin Bishop, former Chief Technologist for UK Public Sector at AWS, joins Baseline to explore what really works when governments and enterprises adopt AI.We talk about why embracing pilot failure is key to progress, how two-person teams are now winning seven-figure government tenders, and what legacy estates mean for transformation.

Martin also shares lessons from AWS, UK public sector procurement, sovereignty, education, and delivery at scale including how he helped stand up vaccine infrastructure in a single weekend.If you want to know what’s hype, what’s real, and how to turn AI into lasting progress, this episode is for you.BASELINE exposes the truth behind AI’s unstoppable rise. In-depth interviews with AI experts, real analysis, and insights you can trust on the technology reshaping our world.