
AI is changing the game for marketing, but how do businesses truly integrate AI into their workflows? In this episode, Kashish Gupta, Co-founder & Co-CEO of High Touch, joins Barr Yaron to break down the rise of Composable CDPs, the role of AI decisioning, and the future of automated marketing.They explore:- How High Touch pivoted into the Composable CDP space- Why marketers struggle with data democratization and AI adoption- How reinforcement learning (RL) agents are optimizing marketing campaigns- What AI can (and can’t) replace in modern marketing teams- The biggest technical challenges in building AI decisioning systemsIf you’re a marketer, data leader, or AI enthusiast, this episode is packed with insights into the future of AI-powered marketing.This episode is broken down into the following chapters:00:00 – Welcome & Introduction01:09 – The High Touch founding story & early pivots02:28 – Why Composable CDPs are the future of data-driven marketing03:42 – Overcoming market education challenges05:08 – The manual way of marketing vs. AI-powered decisioning09:21 – How AI decisioning works inside High Touch12:24 – Why reinforcement learning (RL) is the right AI model for marketing13:45 – How High Touch sets up reward functions for AI agents16:04 – How much data do you actually need for AI-driven marketing?17:27 – The biggest misconceptions about AI and marketing21:00 – Building an AI team at High Touch & hiring strategy24:27 – The biggest technical challenges of AI decisioning27:10 – How customers interact with AI-driven marketing models29:40 – What’s next for AI decisioning & autonomous marketing agents?34:26 – The future of AI & CDPs – where is the industry headed?37:42 – What remains uniquely human in marketing?41:23 – Advice for marketers considering AI adoption44:16 – The future of AI agents working togetherSubscribe to the Barrchives newsletter: https://www.barrchives.com/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/37O8Pb0LgqpqTXo2GZiPXfApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barrchives/id1774292613Twitter: https://x.com/barrnanasLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barryaron/