Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
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Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
The AI-human future: Collapsing silos, leveling up teams, and investing in builders
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
38 minutes
3 months ago
The AI-human future: Collapsing silos, leveling up teams, and investing in builders
Rinki Sethi joins the show this week! She's held just security leadership roles on just about all possible sides, and now she's also a VC investing in the next generation of founders.
George K and George A talk to Rinki about:
* Real talk and timeline on AI in SecOps
* How security teams are gonna get reorganized around AI tooling
* Why most founders fall in love with solutions instead of problems
* The brutal truth about career development in the AI era
Best quote: "I don't think AI is going to replace people. AI is going to replace people that aren't using AI - and it's already starting to happen."
Rinki breaks down why the finance team beat an engineering team during a hackathon at her portfolio company, and why that feat portends an industry wide change.
For vendors: Stop trying to impress CISOs with your tech specs. They're drowning in noise and need you to understand the actual problems their teams are facing.
For practitioners: Learn the fundamentals, then use AI to scale. The combo is gonna separate good from great.
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Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
