Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
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Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
Robot Brothels, AI Therapists, and the Future of Human Intimacy
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
32 minutes
2 months ago
Robot Brothels, AI Therapists, and the Future of Human Intimacy
This week on the show: some seriously cutting-edge territory. George A talks about what he saw at the Love and Sex with Robots conference in Montreal. Then George K and George A discuss AI companions, embodied LLMs, and the wild intersection of technology and human intimacy.
This isn't just about sex robots - it's about the broader question of how AI is reshaping fundamental human experiences.
The reality check: If you think this stuff is too niche or weird to matter, give it 5 years. This technology is going to be everywhere - in education, therapy, companionship. The question isn't whether it's coming, it's whether we'll think through the implications before it's too late.
This might be one of the most uncomfortable (and important) tech conversation we're not having as a society.
Fair warning: This episode gets real, fast. But if you work in tech, security, or just want to understand where we're heading as a species, it's worth your time.
Stay tuned to the end to hear about the "door prize" George A from the conference that is gonna make the office Secret Santa…interesting.
Mentioned this episode:
* Our Season 4 opener with Savannah Sly [https://open.spotify.com/episode/3hBd5UaTTBg5uTmduKCKij?si=Z34KWMGuQ7KEx1yKC6I1Uw]
* Gov Pritzker Signs Legislation Prohibiting AI Therapy in Illinois [https://idfpr.illinois.gov/news/2025/gov-pritzker-signs-state-leg-prohibiting-ai-therapy-in-il.html]
* Parents of teenager who took his own life sue OpenAI [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgerwp7rdlvo]
* You can read the full text of the lawsuit here [https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26075676-raine-v-openai/]
* Scene from Interstellar [https://youtu.be/v2H1s9gj5DA?feature=shared&t=112] that George K references
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
