Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
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Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
Are We Building a Star Trek Future or One that Looks Like Minority Report?
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
40 minutes
1 month ago
Are We Building a Star Trek Future or One that Looks Like Minority Report?
This week George K and George A switch formats to consider the deeper questions behind recent tech headlines.
The hosts dig into the philosophical tensions driving today's biggest tech stories. When does technological dependency become too dangerous to ignore? How do we distinguish between genuine innovation and elaborate pump-and-dump schemes dressed up as progress? What are the real costs when entire economies become intertwined with a handful of companies?
They explore whether we're witnessing the early stages of a historic bubble or if we're already past the point of no return. The conversation touches on the ethics of deploying untested technology on vulnerable populations, the normalization of surveillance capitalism, and why regulatory capture might be democracy's biggest threat.
Most importantly, they ask the question that should keep every technologist awake at night: Are we building the future we actually want to live in, or are we just building the future that's most profitable for a few?
The news examined:
* Details emerge on the US' TikTok deal with China [https://www.wsj.com/tech/details-emerge-on-u-s-china-tiktok-deal-594e009f?reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink]
* Things just got worse for Nvidia in China [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxz29pe1v0o]
* To protect underage users, ChatGPT may ask for ID [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/17/chatgpt-developing-age-verification-system-to-identify-under-18-users-after-teen-death]
* Meta's smart glasses get smarter [https://www.readthepeak.com/stories/09-25-meta-s-smart-glasses-get-smarter]
Mentioned in the discussion:
* MIT report: The GenAI Divide STATE OF AI IN BUSINESS 2025 [https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf]
* Ed Zitron's podcast, Better Offline, and newsletter analysis of "Magnificent Seven" companies [https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-haters-gui/#the-magnificent-7s-ai-story-is-flawed-with-560-billion-of-capex-between-2024-and-2025-leading-to-35-billion-of-revenue-and-no-profit]
* Kashmir Hill's detailed reporting on Adam Raine's death and the part played by ChatGPT [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/26/technology/chatgpt-openai-suicide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nU8.DE_a.Ur81NxfjZuNn&smid=url-share](Warning: detailed discussion of suicide)
* Meta's leaked policy on allowing chatbots to engage in "sensual" chats with children [https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-guidelines]
Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
