We talked about business, career, Bukalapak, pelapak,  commitment, interesting books, and Life.  He is a very amazing leader, Specialties include startup entrepreneurship, digital economy, e-commerce and related industries (payments, logistics, etc.), product management, management consulting, business strategy and analysis, business process, financial modeling and analysis, project management.

He is Co-founder and President at Bukalapak.com, one of the biggest Indonesian e-commerce platforms that want to provide a fair economy for everyone through technology. Currently, the Bukalapak platform empowers over 5,000,000 online merchants, over 3,000,000 offline kiosks, and used by over 70 million users across Indonesia. In 2019, Bukalapak is valued at over $2.5 Billion, attracting investment from both local and global investors including Emtek, GIC, Ant Financial, Naver, and 500 Startups.