This is my guest appearance on the  @OffLabelPodcast . It was a great conversation.

Check out the full uncensored episode on Rumble at the following link:

https://rumble.com/v53kct7-can-you-really-say-this-is-a-win.html

You can also find Off Label and The Oakes Hour on Rumble and YouTube, just type our names into the search bar.