Bill Kristol is director of ⁠Defending Democracy Together⁠, editor at large of ⁠The Bulwark⁠, and the host of ⁠Conversations with Bill Kristol⁠.

In this conversation: moving from academia to Washington, D.C.; changing perspectives over the course of a career in politics; the successes and failures of American conservatism; the most insightful political observers today; what to learn from the most successful political figures; liberalism vs. populism, and more!