The At the Water’s Edge Podcast explores national security and geopolitics from an insider’s perspective, looking at how national power, industrial policy, diplomacy, and military might shape our world and America’s place in it.
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The At the Water’s Edge Podcast explores national security and geopolitics from an insider’s perspective, looking at how national power, industrial policy, diplomacy, and military might shape our world and America’s place in it.
In this conversation, Henrietta Levin, a senior fellow at CSIS, discusses the evolving dynamics of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and its implications for global governance, US-China relations, and regional partnerships. She highlights China's ambitions to reshape the international order, the complexities of India-China relations, and the significance of recent developments within the SCO. The discussion also touches on the risks associated with China's growing confidence, the appeal of its development model, and the potential for alternative financial systems. Levin emphasizes the importance of understanding these dynamics for American businesses and policymakers.
00:00 Introduction to Henrietta Levin and Her Background
07:58 European Perspectives on China
11:04 Understanding the Shanghai Cooperation Organization
14:03 China's Long-Term Goals with the SCO
16:56 China's Vision for Global Governance
20:15 The Significance of the Recent SCO Summit
23:12 China-India Relations and Their Implications
25:57 The Future of the SCO and Regional Dynamics
30:23 China's Growing Influence in Asia
36:10 Contrasting Development Models: China vs. the West
41:03 The SEO and Alternative Financial Systems
46:58 Turkey's Role in the SEO and Its Complex Relations
54:19 Navigating US-China Relations: Strategies and Outcomes
At the Water's Edge
The At the Water’s Edge Podcast explores national security and geopolitics from an insider’s perspective, looking at how national power, industrial policy, diplomacy, and military might shape our world and America’s place in it.