Jonathan Smales has never taken the easy route — from leading Greenpeace UK to creating one of the UK’s most sustainable neighbourhoods. In this episode, we explore his journey into ethical development, the radical thinking behind the Phoenix in Lewes, and what it really takes to transform how we build homes and communities. He shares lessons from a lifetime of activism, the practical challenges of using timber and hempcrete, and why Human Nature is part developer, part movement. It’s a hopeful, grounded vision for the future of place. #podcast #humannature #architectsforchange #architectureandpolitics #architecture #planning #1.5millionshomes #labourgovernment #climatechange #biobasedmaterials #regenerativearchitectureLinks: https://www.humannature-places.com/