This week, Jay is joined by Mark Stevenson — author, advisor, and former comedian — whose work sits at the intersection of science, storytelling and systems change. Mark’s not a fan of the term “futurist,” but his career has been spent helping governments, companies and NGOs navigate what’s coming — and what needs to change.

He’s the author of An Optimist’s Tour of the Future and We Do Things Differently, co-founder of the carbon removals platform CUR8, and a Global Ambassador for ClientEarth. He also co-hosts the podcast Jon Richardson and the Futurenauts — and brings his trademark wit and clarity to this conversation.

Together, they explore:
– Why short-term thinking is wrecking our systems (and how to change the incentives)
– What architecture can learn from nature
– How carbon behaves like the “slut of the periodic table” and how to remove it.
– And why feelings, not facts, are often what drive real change

This is a funny, fiery and deeply practical episode about power, politics, and what it takes to build a future worth living in. Take it as a call to arms for us all to make the change we want to see.

Find out more about Mark Here: https://markstevenson.org/