Scot and Sue are joined by Hahrie Han, an award-winning author and professor of political science at Johns Hopkins University, to discuss her new book Undivided: The Quest for Racial Solidarity in an American Church (Penguin Random House 2024). Undivided tells the story of Hahrie's visits to a megachurch in Ohio as it goes through a six-week program developed by church leaders to cultivate meaningful relationships across race and foster collective anti-racist action. Listening to the congregation and the participants she follows, Hahrie hears a powerful story about politics in the US and what we can do to protect democracy. Guest Bio Hahrie Han is a professor of political science at Johns Hopkins University, as well as the inaugural director of SNF Agora, an institute dedicated to strengthening global democracy. She writes for The New York Times, the Washington Post, and The New Republic and is an award-winning author of four books. The daughter of Korean immigrants, she lives in Baltimore.  Listen, Rate, and Subscribe! Apple Podcasts Spotify Join 22CI’s mailing list Support Convergence Magazine Learn about 22CI’s 2025 Conference If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your friends. Don't forget to subscribe to the Anti-Authoritarian Podcast for more episodes on fighting authoritarianism and building the pro-democracy movement.