Join host Andy Audate in this deep-dive conversation with serial entrepreneur Matt Deseno as they explore the real strategies behind scaling a business from six figures to multi-millions.

In the second part of this discussion, Matt shares the lessons learned from building and selling companies, the systems that allow a business to thrive even when the founder steps away, and the critical mindset shifts needed to grow from $500K to $10M and beyond.

Topics covered in this episode:

• The difference between $1M and $10M businesses

• How saying “no” accelerates growth

• The evolution from offers to systems to people

• Building processes that let you step back without losing momentum

• What happens when partnerships go wrong

• The sale of Zappy Chat and lessons from scaling multiple brands