Host Jerry Eicher of Anabaptist Theological Perspectives reflects on Charlie Kirk’s recent assassination, praising Kirk’s lack of bitterness, spiritual freedom, and extraordinary effectiveness reaching young people, and situates his work against the broader damage Eicher attributes to evolutionary theory in academia. Eicher contrasts Kirk’s political-but-God-first approach with the nonpolitical posture of figures like Tim Keller and explores how both movements influence Anabaptist communities.The episode examines the creation-evolution debate—Darwin’s removal of the voice of God from creation, the evangelical emphasis on a literal 24-hour Genesis, and the practical and theological problems that approach has caused for churches and students entering universities. Eicher proposes alternatives such as point-of-view and representative readings of Scripture (illustrated by Joshua 10 and the doctrine of God’s rest) as more faithful and effective ways to defend the faith.Listeners can expect theological reflection, cultural critique, historical examples, and pastoral concern for how doctrine shapes witness and effectiveness in the modern world—especially regarding young people, biblical interpretation, and ways forward for Anabaptist and evangelical engagement.