In this episode Nic and Adam discuss nature and the degree to which nature is important for our spiritual experiences. We discuss how we relate to nature, especially in the urban environments in which most of us live. How can we overcome the alienation we feel and how can we become more connected to space? Is the language we speak part of the problem? And what is the name of that molybdomantic Swiss tradition that Adam couldn't remember the name of? (It's Bleigießen)