In this episode of American Conservation Experience, hosts Elyse Cogburn and Dave Bastian talk about the ACE EPIC program's impact with alumni Evan Williams and Jeanine Hasty. Evan shares his journey from a naturalist at Delaware State Parks to his role as the Expeditions Director at UrbanPromise, emphasizing the joy and opportunities in outdoor recreation and conservation. Jeanine discusses her transition from ACE Member to interning with ACE's communications team, and how this experience led to landing her current role with a marketing agency. The episode highlights the diverse career paths and skills fostered by the EPIC program, stressing the importance of public lands and conservation work. The conversation also touches on memorable wildlife encounters, favorite outdoor spaces, and the future of conservation.