I reflect on my appearance on Joe Rogan while golfing with Young Jamie and Viktor Hovland. Their conversation dives deep into UFOs, ancient civilizations, and the secrets of the pyramids. They unpack the physics of anomalous objects, the shifting media narratives, and the hidden legacy of Harold Malmgren—all while questioning what Hollywood and black-budget R&D programs aren’t telling us. | Young Jamie | Instagram ➤https://www.instagram.com/jamievernon/ | Viktor Hovland | Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/viktor_hovland/ | Sponsors | MUDWTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with code [JESSE] at  mudwtr.com/JESSE!  BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ALCHEMYPOD and get on your way to being your best self. Brunt: Get $10 Off @BRUNT with code [JESSE] at https://bruntworkwear.com/JESSE -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤  https://whop.com/jessemichels Patreon  (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://www.patreon.com/c/JesseMichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Website ➤ https://www.jesse-michels.com/ Merchandise ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Media Inquiries ➤ gordon@jessemichelsmedia.com #JesseMichels #JoeRogan #YoungJamie #ViktorHovland #UFO #Mudwtrpod #BRUNTpod Chapters 00:00 The Fascination with UFOs 02:57 Exploring Ancient Civilizations and the Pyramids 05:57 The Quest for Evidence and Truth 09:07 Conspiracy Theories and Government Secrecy 11:57 Debating History and Beliefs 16:35 Unveiling Harold Malmgren's Controversial Legacy 19:32 The Complexity of Advanced Technologies and Their Origins 22:41 Exploring the Physics of Anomalous Objects 25:21 The Intersection of Science, Intelligence, and UFOs 29:59 Hollywood's Influence on UFO Narratives 35:02 The Secrets of Advanced Research and Development Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices