In this episode, we explore the rare instances in American history where a president has federalized a state's National Guard without the governor's consent, highlighting the recent actions by Donald Trump to support ICE raids. Delve into the contrasts between Trump's approach and those during the Civil Rights era, alongside an evaluation of Obama's immigration policies and his method of federal interventions.The discussion critiques the provocative nature of Trump's tactics in California and his use of federal forces in Portland, Oregon, after the George Floyd protests. It contrasts this with Obama's methodical and empathetic approach to immigration enforcement, detailing his focus on recent border crossers and criminal offenders while protecting established immigrant families.Join us as we navigate these complex issues and analyze the political motives behind federal interventions, emphasizing the importance of not falling into repetitive traps that provoke unnecessary confrontations.