My guest today is Commander Burt Colucci, a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi and head of the National Socialism Movement in the US - the largest and most active Nazi group in North America.

The group itself is officially classified as a hate group, with the organisation regularly holding rallies where they wear SS uniforms and proudly display banners with the Nazi swastika branded on it. They believe in total white supremacy and, whilst they claim not to incite violence, the aim of the group is to get into power and impose racial policies such as segregation and deportation.

I wanted to sit down with Burt as I wholeheartedly disagree with his abhorrent views. However, I wanted to see if it was possible to conversate without prejudice with someone whose entire belief system is prejudicial. In an interview that borders on a longform debate, that contains potentially offensive racial language and some outlandish claims, Burt and I walked the line between rational conversation and sheer bafflement.

I hope you enjoy.

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