In this conversation, we delve into the complexities surrounding intersex and transgender identities, focusing on medical ethics and the importance of patient autonomy. Our guest, Kaitlyn Brown, discusses their advocacy for the intersex community, emphasizing the importance of trauma-informed care in healthcare settings. We talk about the differences between intersex and transgender identities, the prevalence of intersex conditions, and the challenges faced by parents of intersex children. The discussion highlights the complexity of genetic definitions and the need for better understanding and support within the healthcare system. It highlights the ongoing legislative challenges that threaten the rights and healthcare access of these communities, while also emphasizing the need for advocacy and allyship. Key Takeaways: Intersex conditions encompass a wide range of biological variations. Parents need support in navigating intersex diagnoses. Genetic definitions of intersex are complex and varied. Healthcare providers must approach intersex care with sensitivity. Surgical interventions for intersex individuals are controversial and complex. Patient autonomy is crucial in medical decisions regarding gender assignment. Legislation is increasingly targeting transgender and intersex communities. Inclusive conversations about sex and gender are essential in healthcare. Cisgender individuals can use their privilege to advocate for intersex and transgender rights.   Kaitlyn Brown is a certified genetic counselor from New Zealand who is endosex and identifies as a genderqueer femme, assigned female at birth. Currently a laboratory genetic counselor specializing in cell-free DNA prenatal screening, Kaitlyn has been an active advocate for the intersex community/ people with differences of sexual development and assisted in care management as a former pediatric genetic counselor and researcher. They have been involved with passing government initiatives to legislate awareness and understanding of differences of sex development for healthcare professionals and others who care for this community. Given the history of harmful practices performed on intersex and gender diverse people, Kaitlyn uses a trauma-informed lens to educate about sex development and incorporate both sex- and gender- diverse experiences and needs. They can be found on Bluesky as geneticsbtb.bsky.social   Please subscribe to this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts to stay updated on new episodes of All Access DNA. Listen to past episodes on your favorite podcast play by searching “All Access DNA” or by streaming from our website at allaccessdna.podbean.com   Here are more resources related to today’s topic, genetic counselors. InterACT- Advocates for Intersex Youth Sambia culture of Papua New Guinea and “turnim-man” Trauma Informed Care Intersex Justice Project Strategy Lab for Intersex Movements (SLIM) InterConnect Support Tested podcast about sex testing in elite sports from NPR Book, Sex Itself by Sarah S Richardson   Any inquiries on the podcast can be sent to AllAccessDNA@gmail.com Note that this podcast is for entertainment and education and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice. Please consult your physician with any questions you may have regarding your health. The All Access DNA team includes: host, producer and editor Kate Wilson. The logo is designed by Designs by NKJ.