Welcome to Aligned > Engaged > Fulfilled, the podcast for leaders, entrepreneurs, and changemakers who believe people and purpose drive profits, not the other way around.
The old playbook is broken. We're told to follow the rules and chase engagement, but we're left feeling burnt out and misaligned. It's time to challenge the status quo of workplace culture, career development, and business growth.
Join host Clarence Maur as he goes beyond the buzzwords to decode the "brain behind the brilliance" of fearless founders, contrarian thinkers, and leadership experts.
This is your guide to building a fulfilling and human-centric future. Each episode provides a new playbook for:
If you're ready to build a transformative career or a business that leaves an impactful legacy, you're in the right place.
Welcome to Aligned > Engaged > Fulfilled, the podcast for leaders, entrepreneurs, and changemakers who believe people and purpose drive profits, not the other way around.
The old playbook is broken. We're told to follow the rules and chase engagement, but we're left feeling burnt out and misaligned. It's time to challenge the status quo of workplace culture, career development, and business growth.
Join host Clarence Maur as he goes beyond the buzzwords to decode the "brain behind the brilliance" of fearless founders, contrarian thinkers, and leadership experts.
This is your guide to building a fulfilling and human-centric future. Each episode provides a new playbook for:
If you're ready to build a transformative career or a business that leaves an impactful legacy, you're in the right place.
Summary
In this episode, we explore how a world-class Employee Experience (EX) is the single biggest driver of an unbeatable Customer Experience (CX) in 2025 and beyond. Manasi Shukla, Founder of Safrela Consulting, and Natalie Jackson, Founder of Crescent Consultancy and CX Strategist at Peak Fractional, join the discussion and share their insights on how investing in employees as primary customers can drive growth and enhance overall brand experience.
The conversation covers the importance of experiential leadership, the role of journey mapping in both CX and EX, the need for alignment between internal and external experiences, and the impact of this mindset shift on business growth. Practical steps for leaders to improve both EX and CX are also discussed, emphasizing the need for listening, measuring, and creating a culture of engagement.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Employee-Centric Business Models
03:24 Defining Customer Experience (CX) and Employee Experience (EX)
06:05 The Concept of Employees as Primary Customers
08:55 The Impact of Remote Work on Employee Onboarding
11:46 Talent Company Fit vs. Product Market Fit
14:33 The Importance of Internal Alignment for Customer Success
17:25 Differences in CX Solutions Across Industries
20:20 Understanding Journey Mapping
23:30 Challenges in Implementing Journey Mapping
26:07 Ownership of Employee Experience
28:53 The Role of Marketing in Employee Experience
35:01 The Importance of Customer Experience
37:12 Aligning Internal and External Experiences
39:01 The Role of Leadership in Customer Education
41:50 Ownership and Accountability in Customer Success
44:15 People as the Anchor of Experience
48:23 AI's Impact on Customer and Employee Experience
53:54 Practical Steps for Leaders
57:24 The Future of Employee and Customer Experience
Keywords
#EmployeeExperience #CustomerExperience #CX #EX #WorkplaceCulture #TalentOptimization #JourneyMapping #AIinBusiness #Leadership #OrganizationalDesign
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