The following conversation with former co-owners of Orphic Education Alex Karamouzis & Matt Witbreuk discusses behind the scenes of what it took for us to own and operate an RTO Certificate III/IV provider that certified Personal Trainers. We discuss the most formidable challenges, the life lessons we learnt and explain why made the difficult decision to sell the company. I hope this conversation contains valuable insights for those who run a business or are even looking to manage an RTO.

From changing the fitness industry to regret, reflection and depression. You can read my distilled thoughts on this below (5min read)

https://alexanderemmanual.medium.com/what-it-feels-like-to-sell-a-successful-6-figure-business-in-the-fitness-industry-9caf97ba8aad

0:00 Introduction - The Seed 14:00 Metaverse  18:30 Becoming An RTO 25:00 Lessons Learnt Running Orphic 38:00 The Fitness Industry 40:00 Purpose & Athletes Authority  46:00 My Backstory 50:00 More Lessons Learnt 57:30 Biggest Challenges Of Running Orphic 1:30:00 Changing An Industry, Meaning & Fulfilment