Did liberal feminism change the rules of work — for better or worse? In this 3-minute summary (originally 1 hour), Ross Douthat talks with Helen Andrews and Leah Libresco Sargeant about how feminism, MeToo, and legal shifts have reshaped workplace norms, incentives, and the balance between risk-taking and care. You’ll get the central arguments: Helen’s claim that wokeness and anti-discrimination law altered managerial behavior and truth-seeking, and Leah’s call to affirm caregiving, dependence, and concrete policy remedies so families can thrive. The conversation covers gender and work, censorship and free expression, professional culture, litigation’s effects, and practical ideas for making workplaces compatible with parenting and trust. Hosts and guests surface trade-offs between masculine virtues (risk, candid feedback) and feminine virtues (care, communitarian responsibility) and imagine how institutions might preserve truth while tending to human fragility. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.