AI Inside explores the complexities of artificial intelligence and its impact on the world at large. Hosted by tech podcaster Jason Howell and media expert Jeff Jarvis, AI Inside takes a thoughtful look at the promise and challenges of AI while inviting some of the industry's most notable players and thinkers to engage in thoughtful dialogue about AI, neither overhyping its potential nor dismissing public concerns about its development. With a deep interest in AI's impacts on art and culture, Jason uses his rich experience in technology and creativity to understand its capabilities better. Jeff is a respected voice on technology's influence on media and society, thanks to his popular blog BuzzMachine and books like "The Web We Weave" and "The Gutenberg Parenthesis." Together, Jason and Jeff aim to advance public understanding of this world-changing technology at an important inflection point.
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AI Inside explores the complexities of artificial intelligence and its impact on the world at large. Hosted by tech podcaster Jason Howell and media expert Jeff Jarvis, AI Inside takes a thoughtful look at the promise and challenges of AI while inviting some of the industry's most notable players and thinkers to engage in thoughtful dialogue about AI, neither overhyping its potential nor dismissing public concerns about its development. With a deep interest in AI's impacts on art and culture, Jason uses his rich experience in technology and creativity to understand its capabilities better. Jeff is a respected voice on technology's influence on media and society, thanks to his popular blog BuzzMachine and books like "The Web We Weave" and "The Gutenberg Parenthesis." Together, Jason and Jeff aim to advance public understanding of this world-changing technology at an important inflection point.
Babak Hodjat, CTO for AI at Cognizant and a pioneer behind the technology that became Siri, joins us to discuss the new era of agentic AI. We dig into his early days building natural language systems, the evolution of multi-agent architectures, and how language interfaces are shaping the future of human-AI collaboration. We also discuss the safeguards needed to ensure trust in autonomous systems, the challenge of AI’s black box, and the emerging standards for interoperability.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Podcast begins01:45 - Introducing Babak Hodjat and his journey from Dejima to Siri02:47 - The origins of agent-based AI and early natural language systems06:21 - Language as the ultimate interface: strengths and limitations09:35 - How modern AI capabilities could have changed early voice agents13:08 - Agentic systems versus traditional APIs in enterprise tech16:10 - How Cognizant builds and deploys agent-based AI for clients18:18 - The need for interoperability and emerging agent standards20:49 - Do agents develop their own languages? Internal communication in LLMs23:01 - Multilingual models, cultural context, and emotional abstraction26:49 - Can AI truly understand meaning? Perspectives on abstraction27:50 - Safeguards, kill switches, and trust in agentic automation32:05 - Marketing, influence, and negotiation in an agent-driven world35:07 - The risks of over-trusting black box AI systems36:47 - The evolution of AI: what’s truly new versus what’s rediscovered39:26 - Thank you to Babak Hodjat for joining the AI Inside podcast
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AI Inside
AI Inside explores the complexities of artificial intelligence and its impact on the world at large. Hosted by tech podcaster Jason Howell and media expert Jeff Jarvis, AI Inside takes a thoughtful look at the promise and challenges of AI while inviting some of the industry's most notable players and thinkers to engage in thoughtful dialogue about AI, neither overhyping its potential nor dismissing public concerns about its development. With a deep interest in AI's impacts on art and culture, Jason uses his rich experience in technology and creativity to understand its capabilities better. Jeff is a respected voice on technology's influence on media and society, thanks to his popular blog BuzzMachine and books like "The Web We Weave" and "The Gutenberg Parenthesis." Together, Jason and Jeff aim to advance public understanding of this world-changing technology at an important inflection point.
