Welcome to Episode 10 of the Agents Unleashed Podcast — the show that helps you find signal in the noisy world of agentic AI.

Hosted by Thomas Maybrier (Digital Media Producer, Valory), this episode features a wide-ranging conversation with Trent McConaghy, co-founder of Ocean Protocol and the Artificial Superintelligence Alliance (ASI).

In This Episode: Trent shares his journey, from early AI-for-chips design to launching Ocean Protocol, an early AI and crypto project. He explains his view on what a truly autonomous AI agent is, why they need sovereignty, and why blockchains are essential.

We also explore:

- What makes an agent “sovereign”, and why many agents today aren’t

- How Ocean Protocol evolved

- “Bitcoin as a life form” and what that could mean for AI

- Reasons blockchains matter for AI agents

- What’s next for AGI, ASI, and the future of brain-computer interfaces

Resources & Links:

Trent McConaghy: https://trent.st

Trent on X: @TrentMc0

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