Most no-code tools give you an MVP. Woz wants to give you a business.
On this episode of Agentic, I was joined by Ben Collins and Brad Eckert, co-founders of Woz, an AI platform that lets anyone build real, scalable web and mobile products with zero coding. Think Shopify, but for launching operational SaaS startups.
They break down:
• Why shipping your MVP is just 1% of the journey—and what the other 99% really looks like
• The difference between vibe coding, AI engineering, and real startup durability
• What they learned from going through Y Combinator (twice), taking 80+ investor meetings, and raising a breakout seed round.
• Why automation means more software businesses and not fewer jobs
00:00 Trailer
01:07 Introduction
02:29 Empowering entrepreneurs
04:27 Woz's Vision
10:32 Success stories
13:38 The origin story
15:27 AI code generation evolution
17:29 Technical insights
19:44 The Role of AI
30:31 Job markets
31:20 Entrepreneurial mindset shift
32:56 Business building challenges
34:54 Creating a successful platform
37:45 Y Combinator experience
43:41 Fundraising insights
49:29 Advice for AI Entrepreneurs
56:31 Closing