As AI races forward, one question looms large—who decides what’s right and wrong?

Behind the breakthroughs and multi billion-dollar valuations, a power struggle is unfolding. Big Tech is quietly shaping AI policy in the shadows, and governments are stuck playing catch-up.

In this episode, I speak with Wendell Wallach, a foremost expert on AI ethics and governance, to break down the challenges and power dynamics steering the course of AI.

Co-author of Moral Machines and a key figure at Yale and Carnegie Council, Wendell has spent decades thinking about how to align AI with human values.

We cover:

• why rogue superintelligence isn’t the biggest threat

• how Big Tech is quietly shaping AI policies

• AGI vs. ASI: When AI starts making its own rules

Connect with us here:

1. Wendell Wallach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendell-wallach-246ba69/

2. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

3. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures

00:00 Trailer

00:55 Introduction

01:59 AI uplifting humanity

04:09 Moral machines

09:58 Big tech oligopoly

16:00 Cold War

18:59 AI will take over the world?

29:57 Nefarious purposes

34:32 Trade-offs and safeguards

38:11 Data security

41:00 Finding product market fit

43:25 Human dangers

47:46 Outro