What happens when a teacher’s favorite student grows up to become a force in the music industry—and your podcast partner, twenty years later?

This episode is a celebration of those full-circle moments that remind us why sticking to your passion matters, even when the road gets tough.

Back in 2005, I taught math and science to Julian, a creative seventh grader with a passion for music. Now, as a producer working with the likes of The Chainsmokers and Netflix—and my own podcast editor—Julian joins me for a heartfelt conversation about:

The unforgettable school year at Mission Charter in Arizona

-Turning a love of music into a thriving production career

-Honest stories from inside the music industry: the good, the bad, and the dark side

-Lessons on perseverance, creativity, and finding light in adversity

-The joy of reconnecting and working together after twenty years

Tune in to be inspired by a story of growth, mentorship, and the power of holding on to your dreams—even when life is unpredictable.

Follow Julian’s journey on Instagram: ⁠@jacklondonmusic⁠ for music highlights and behind-the-scenes glimpses!

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