Sue Stockdale talks to learning designer Agnese Spona about the process of creating learning experiences. Agnese shares her frustrations with traditional education systems and the barriers to scaling individualised learning. The conversation concludes with thoughts on how to inspire better human interactions and curiosity within educational contexts, considering the rapidly evolving landscape influenced by AI and technology.

About Agnese Spona
Agnese Spona is a professional with a passion for empowering individuals and organisations through transformative learning experiences. Agnese is  founder of Ness, a learning design and facilitation practice focused on fostering growth and positive change. She also co-founded MadeFor, an international learning business where she led instructional design, customer experience strategy, and brand building as well served as a management team member at the Customer Bureau.

Agnese's insights on education sector has been deepened in her role as a thesis and research supervisor at Hague University of Applied Sciences and Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences. She is also a founding member of Women in CX and has served as a Strategy and Proposition Design advisor at Logiscool Netherlands (coding school for kids). Her volunteer work : TEDx Amsterdam Impact Program Coach and with Project Fearless demonstrate her commitment to community and social impact.

Find out more about Agnese Spona via her website : Instagram and LinkedIn

Key Quotes

• How do you actually motivate people to recognise that they want to learn?
• One of the things that's really hard in education is evaluation of effectiveness of that education.
• The ultimate goal is to make sure that you consider really the learner  in your design.
• If AI can do your Excel spreadsheet the question is what you're going to do then with that Excel spreadsheet.

Time Stamps

01:35 Agnese's Journey into Learning Design
03:14 Building a Learning Business
04:29 Understanding the Learner's Needs
08:37 Challenges in Traditional Education
14:21  Impact of COVID and AI on Learning
19:13  Personal Reflections on Education
22:05 Curiosity and Customized Learning
24:34 Scaling Individualized Learning
27:41 Future of Learning and AI

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