The electric vehicles (EV) market has grown rapidly in the last 10 years. With a growing share of renewable energy production on a supply side and a tremendous increase in electric vehicles on the demand side, more and more grid congestion occurs. Grid expansion and reinforcement cannot keep up with the increasing loads. Smart charging unleashes the power to provide grid stability by using electric vehicles as a storage option. Charging stations are becoming increasingly smart by optimizing the software that operates them. In this episode, Lonneke Tabak, Energy Transition Services Lead of the Netherlands, invited Hans de Boer, a true expert with years of experience in the field of smart charging. The challenges and opportunities of smart solutions and specifically the software that operated them are explored.