We’re staring into the abyss of 2008’s Until the Light Takes US to see what will gaze back. In this episode, Billy, Brandon & Josh are joined by returning guest, Mark Moore to discuss the mental health effects of art, the divisive nature of black metal & much more. Get your tickets to Horrific Hope here.

If you or someone you know is reading this right now and struggling with suicide, depression, addiction, or self-harm - please reach out—comment, message, or tweet’ at us. Go to victimsandvillains.net/hope for more resources. Call the suicide lifeline at 988. Text "HELP" to 741-741. There is hope & you DO have so much value and worth!

Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Josh “Captain Nostalgia” Burkey (& produced by), Brandon Miller & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms).

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