I’ve known Elizabeth for some years, ever since we met working as collaborators on a joint Oxford Group - GameShift project. Elizabeth is a superb developer of people, as a facilitator and coach. She brings to her work a massive depth of experience in contemplative practice, and a passionate gentle focus on the sheer wonder of the question “what is this?”.

In this episode we talk about her work, and how organisational work has now given way, mostly, to other forms of practice in art and poetry. If you’re at all interested in personal growth, in how things change, and the wonder of noticing how things are, then this is a conversation you’ll want to hear.