British and Italian Psychiatrist and Psychotherapist Micol Ascoli joins Vincenzo to talk about her experience of working in Uk mental health services, and about how we both experienced moving from a Basaglian background and system in Italy to the UK context. This conversation happens in the context of a range of mental health care scandals which have been recently in the news in the Uk. Bureaucracy is an interesting lens through which the crisis, and the system's response to it, can be understood.

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