In the wake of Donald Trump's demand for a juicy minerals deal in Ukraine, Neil and Jonathan join author James Barr to look at the history of possibly the greatest minerals carve-up of all time - in the post First World War Middle East - and ask the key question: "How did that all work out?"

Presented by Jonathan Ford and Neil Collins.

With James Barr.

Produced and edited by Nick Hilton for Podot.

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