Today Malcolm talks to Alofa Lale about learning forgiveness from her dad. Having heard in previous episodes about the harm parents can do, Alofa's story reminds of the possibility of a more beautiful kind of inheritance. Drawing on her Samoan heritage, Alofa offers an understanding of forgiveness that cares about relationships and community. Drawing on her faith, she operates from a conviction that people are loved but flawed - meaning forgiveness is an essential skill in our world. Oh, and she talks about forgiving someone who called her the n-word. A week ago. I know, right!

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