In this deeply interesting podcast series, Tony Huxley, Founder and CEO of Trabr, chats with Brett Blandin de Chalin of BDC Building Services. The 2013 MBA Young Builder of The Year, skips forward to talk about life, business and building in 2020. We get to understand the life and the journey that is building today for a small (but successful) builder, about the home renovation space for a smaller builder in the modern day building ecosystem and see that that means projects ranging from $300k through to anything up to $2million, and more. We hear about how needs have evolved and how people now are more include to rip it apart and start again, whether that be authentic detailed refurbishments or contemporary hybrid renovations and extensions. We learn about how for builders like Brett it's more about the love of the work, the love for the trade and for building, and how building today has become just as much about managing expectations, agendas and personalities than just getting on with the build.