Uleis and Walker are back with a one-of-a-kind episode that looks at the days when They Might Be Giants went from indie label darlings to major label upstarts, and from a two-man outfit with pre-recorded backing tracks to touring with a kickass live band. Each guest—management company go-to guy Bo Orloff, music writer Ira Robbins, and Elektra A&R person Sue Drew—has their own perspective on the band’s development and, in a series of interlocking conversations, their stories are told. Throw in some favorite TMBG song picks from Bo and Ira and this is the epic show you need to help kill off all that spare time.

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