Dive into the fascinating world of LGBTQ representation in 70s, 80s, and 90s television with hosts Sharon Johnson and Susan Lambert Hatem on '80s TV Ladies.' This special summer rerun, featuring expert Matt Baume, highlights iconic queer moments and characters. Originally aired on June 7th, 2023, the episode covers groundbreaking shows like 'Bewitched,' 'All in the Family,' 'Golden Girls,' and more. Matt discusses his unique journey as a content creator focused on queer pop culture and shares his insights on evolving media representation. Don’t miss this engaging and enlightening episode, perfect for Pride Month or any time of year!

00:00 Introduction to Queer TV with Matt Baume
00:43 Meet the Hosts and Guest Introduction
02:41 Matt Baume's Journey into Queer Pop Culture
04:54 The Impact of Television on Cultural Understanding
13:30 Early Gay Representation on Television
15:07 The Significance of 'Bewitched' in Queer Representation
20:52 Norman Lear's Contributions to Queer Representation
28:57 The Golden Girls and Its Gay Fandom
33:58 Michael Scott and Archie Bunker: A Comparison
34:40 The 'I Can't Believe It's Not Heterosexual' Trope
37:52 Backlash and Acceptance of Queer Representation
41:08 Lesbian Representation on TV
49:15 Trans Representation on TV
53:01 The Role of Gatekeepers in TV Representation
59:18 Demanding Representation and Change
01:01:15 Upcoming Projects and Final Thoughts
01:03:34 Conclusion and Farewell

AUDIOGRAPHY
Find Matt and his podcast “Sewers of Paris” - at MattBaume.com
Get Matt Baume’s new book “Hi Honey, I’m Homo” at Bookshop.org.
Or at Elliott Bay. Watch Matt’s YouTube Videos.

LGBTQ Advocacy: Consider supporting orgs like The Trevor Project and The Okra Project.

CONNECT
What does representation mean to you? Email us at 80sTVLadies@gmail.com

SUSAN and RICHARD HATEM ON TOUR
Richard of Richard Hatem’s Paranormal Bookshelf is going on the road! Susan will be there, too - producing and hosting! We’re kicking off Rich’s 2025 multi-city show, the “LIGHT IN THE DARK” tour, debuting an all-original LIVE episode, you can only hear it live!

Confirmed dates:
Sept 20th - The Mothman Festival. Point Pleasant, WV
Sept 22nd - Washington D.C.
Sept 27th - Centereach, NY

More dates are being added soon:
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In this episode, hosts Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson revisit season one, episode six of 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King,' originally launched on September 28, 2022. The rerun features actress Martha Smith, the first actress/celebrity guest on 80s TV Ladies. They dive into Smith's experiences and roles, from her motion picture debut in 'Animal House' to her portrayal of Agent Francine Desmond in 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King.' The conversation covers various topics such as acting in the 80s, the dynamics of the show, and the evolution of female-driven TV shows. Martha shares personal anecdotes about her career, her time with Playboy, on-tour adventures with Rod Stewart, and her unique character development on the show.

00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:26 Voting Reminder and Importance
01:11 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest Introduction
01:51 Martha Smith's Early Career and Animal House
02:41 Behind the Scenes of Animal House
07:59 Martha's Playboy Experience
11:33 Transition to Acting and Early Roles
19:36 Landing the Role in Scarecrow and Mrs. King
39:41 Francine and Amanda's Dynamic Duo
40:44 The Core Fan Base of Scarecrow and Mrs. King
43:37 Behind the Scenes: Changes and Challenges
46:58 Memorable Episodes and Character Development
53:09 The End of an Era: Season Four and Beyond
01:00:32 Reflections and Future Endeavors
01:06:31 Final Thoughts and Farewells

AUDIOOGRAPHY
Watch Scarecrow and Mrs. King On Tubi or On Roku.
Check out ‍‍Television’s Female Spies And Crimefighters by Karen A. Romanko at Barnes and Noble.
Fansite: CallMeaCab.com by Taya Johnston

80s TV Ladies is nominated for TWO 2025 Podcast Awards. Check us out at  PodcastAwards.com https://www.podcastawards.com If you’re a selected judge, please vote for us in Best Female Hosted Podcast and for Best TV & Film Podcast.

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Have a great summer, y’all!

Join hosts Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson as they revisit a beloved episode featuring the co-creator of 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King,' Eugenie Ross-Leming. Originally aired on August 31, 2022, this rerun dives into Ross-Leming's storied career, from her early days at Second City to creating the iconic 80s TV series. Delve into the casting choices, character dynamics, and behind-the-scenes challenges that shaped this female-driven show.

Whether you're a longtime fan or new to 80s television, this episode offers rich insights and nostalgic reflections. Don't miss out on personal stories, industry trends, and the show's lasting impact on viewers. Plus, stay tuned for shoutouts to dedicated fan sites and podcasts celebrating 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King.' Perfect for any enthusiast of 80s TV and the evolution of women in television.

00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
01:05 Meet the Hosts: Susan and Sharon
01:18 Special Guest: Eugenie Ross Leming
01:55 Eugenie's Early Career and Second City Days
05:19 Transition to Writing and Hollywood Experiences
11:12 Creating Scarecrow and Mrs. King
15:07 Casting and Character Dynamics
28:01 Challenges and Reflections on the Show
34:50 Legacy and Fanbase of Scarecrow and Mrs. King
36:15 Reflecting on Career and Relationships
40:25 Women in Television: Past and Present
42:55 Defining Feminist and Female-Driven Shows
50:02 Memorable Moments from Scarecrow and Mrs. King
54:49 Supernatural: A Phenomenal Experience
56:59 Favorite Female-Driven TV Shows
01:02:25 Directing Lois and Clark: A Personal Anecdote
01:07:12 Closing Remarks and Fan Shoutouts

AUDIOOGRAPHY
We’ve been nominated for TWO 2025 Podcast Awards.
Check us out at  PodcastAwards.com  - If you’re a selected judge, please vote for us in Best Female Hosted Podcast and for Best TV & Film Podcast.

PODCAST MOVEMENT 2025: Susan will be at the Podcast Movement Convention in Dallas, August 18-20. Reach out if you will be there, too 80sTVLadies@gmail.com

Richard of Richard Hatem’s Paranormal Bookshelf is going on the road! Susan will be there, too - Producing and hosting! We’re kicking off Rich’s 2025 multi-city show, the “LIGHT IN THE DARK” tour, debuting an all-original LIVE episode, at the On Rotation Brewery in Dallas on Monday, August 18. Get tickets for the August 18 Dallas show: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dallas-richard-hatems-paranormal-bookshelf-live-tickets-1520485967459

Find out if we’re coming to a city near you. Check out rhpb.eventbrite.com or go to https://www.richardhatemsparanormalbookshelf.com/events to learn more!

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In this special summer rerun reminiscent of those hot and fabulous days of 1980s television, hosts Sharon Johnson and Susan Lambert Hatem take listeners back to the very first episode of our own 80s TV Ladies. 

Originally dropped July 20, 2022, this throwback episode revisits the launch of the podcast and the cultural moment that inspired it—emerging from the pandemic, navigating a changing world, and celebrating the iconic women of 1980s television. Sharon and Susan dive deep into the pilot of "Scarecrow and Mrs. King," exploring its unique blend of action, comedy, and romance, and discussing why the show remains a beloved, feminist classic.

Along the way, they reflect on the evolution of female-driven TV, the impact of trailblazing showrunners, and the enduring appeal of stars like Kate Jackson and Bruce Boxleitner.Packed with personal stories, pop culture insights, and plenty of laughs, this episode is both a nostalgic look back and a celebration of the groundbreaking women who shaped TV history. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering 80s TV Ladies for the first time, this is the perfect place to start your journey.

THE CONVERSATION

• Beverly Garland: the hotel AND the actress – Plus, Is she Amanda King’s mother – or Laura Holt’s (Remington Steele)?
• Kate Jackson’s previous hit show: Was it Alley Cats or Harry’s Angels or….?
• Did the writers change Amanda from being married to divorced in the pilot script?
• Who was the first female showrunner in TV history – and why did it take 30 years before there was another?
• What was Amanda King’s superpower?
• And what does all this have to do with Parks and Recreation’s Leslie Knope?

Join us for our “First Time” as we solve the mystery of whether or not Scarecrow and Mrs. King was a feminist show – a progressive show – or both?

Have no fear: Susan and Sharon are on the case!

OUR AUDIO-OGRAPHY

Why does Susan call it Audio-ology in this episode? Cause she’s silly, and we’re still figuring out what we’re calling it.

Watch Scarecrow and Mrs. King On Tubi or On Roku

Get "How Tall Are You? A Memboir by Greg Morton" at BooksaMilion.com
Check out ‍‍Television’s Female Spies And Crimefighters by Karen A. Romanko at Barnes and Noble.

Fansite: CallMeaCab.com by Taya Johnston  
Podcast:‍ The Mrs. King Chronicles – Hosted by Lexie Fiema, Taya Johnston, Jenn Peterson, Miranda Thomas

We’ve been nominated for TWO 2025 Podcast Awards.
Check us out at  PodcastAwards.com
If you’re a selected judge, please vote for us in Best Female Hosted Podcast and for Best TV & Film Podcast.

HELLO, TEXAS! Susan will be at the Podcast Movement Convention in Dallas, August 18-20. Reach out if you will be there, too! Email Susan at 80sTVLadies@gmail.com

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