Charity founder Sarah Eustis-Guthrie has a candid conversation about her experience starting and running her maternal health charity, and ultimately making the difficult decision to shut down when the programme wasn’t as impactful as they expected. This episode is a selection of highlights from our full interview with Sarah:

• Luisa’s intro (00:00:00)
• What it's like to found a charity (00:00:14)
• Yellow flags and difficult calls (00:03:17)
• Disappointing results (00:06:28)
• The ups and downs of founding an organisation (00:08:37)
• Entrepreneurship and being willing to make risky bets (00:12:58)
• Why aren't more charities shutting down? (00:16:50)
• How to think about shutting down (00:19:39)

These highlights are from episode #207 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast: Sarah Eustis-Guthrie on why she shut down her charity, and why more founders should follow her lead. These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — so if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode!

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Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong