Nicolai J. Foss is a professor of strategy at the Copenhagen Business School. He is a prolific contributor to the research literature in management and is one of the world's most cited management scholars. He is mainly interested in the organizational and individual-level aspects of processes of creating and capturing value.

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CHAT OUTLINE

[02:58] Can you give us a quick introduction to your recent book “Why Managers Matter: The perils of the Bossless Company”, with Peter Klein?

[10:21] Mark 1 and Mark 2 authority and how the bossless company narrative confuses them

[15:14] The bossless company narrative in in high power distance contexts and its psychological costs

[17:15] When does the bossless company actually work?

[23:23] The bossless company narrative in highly turbulent/highly uncertain environments

[25:14] The deeper epistemological and political values behind the bossless company narrative

[31:20] The bossless company narrative and postmodernism

[34:03] Why do companies go woke?

[36:16] The public response to Nicolai's work on bossless company and wokeness

[40:10] Why do business schools do so little research on sensitive themes such as wokeness and capitalism?

[44:52] What are the biggest problems in management research?

[54:52] Lighthearted closing question: What is your experience as a business school professor in Bocconi (Italy)?

MENTIONED SOURCES

Foss, N. J., & Klein, P. G. (2022). Why Managers Matter: The Perils of the Bossless Company: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Managers-Matter-Bossless-Company/dp/1541751043

Wulf, J. (2012). The Flattened Firm—Not as Advertised: https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/the-flattened-firmnot-as-advertised

Hamel, G. & Zanini, M. (2016). Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3 Trillion Per Year: https://hbr.org/2016/09/excess-management-is-costing-the-us-3-trillion-per-year

Foss, N. J., & Klein, P. G. (2022). Why Do Companies Go Woke? Academy of Management Perspectives: https://journals.aom.org/doi/10.5465/amp.2021.0201

Commentaries (and rejoinder) to the book on the Journal of Organizational Design: https://link.springer.com/journal/41469/volumes-and-issues/12-1

Heterodox Academy: https://heterodoxacademy.org

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Affiliated with the journal Futures & Foresight Science: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/25735152

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