If you all follow me on socials, then you will know that I have just returned from a month long vacation, and then decided it was smart to adopt a puppy whilst I was still a little jet lagged. So apologies for the late upload!

So, kids right? Not fur babies but actual kids. Do we actually want them or is this a concept that we are told to subscribe to?

In today's episode, we will talk to my good friends Leann and Thomas about their desire to not subscribe to the need to populate the earth!

If you're on the fence about having kids (because look at the state of the world these days, I don't blame you), maybe this episode will solidify or sway you from that decision - who knows!

Let us know your thoughts!

FYI: This was recorded in June so we can do another follow up since there's been so much opinion (from men ugh) on why women should be having more kids in an era where there is a decline in the birth rate across the world. So let me know, would you be interested in hearing what we think about that?

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