Okay, here we are. Welcome to another segment of 15 minutes of fame. My name is goldy and joined with me today, on my left side is julian carr.  Who is julian carr? Julian carr is known for his skiing. Julian carr is known for his event production in trail running. Julian carr is known for...  The list goes on. Why don't I pass it off to you, julian carr. Tell us who you are and thanks for joining us here on 15 minutes of fame.  Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. It's good to be productive in this interesting time in the world.  I'm julian carr, professional skier and founder of the cirque series mountain races and founder of discrete clothing. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Was it professional skiing that led you into a clothing company? Was it clothing that led you into skiing? What happened?  You know, I grew up doing lots of team sports, but a lot of skateboarding too. I really liked how it was a very personality, athlete-led industry and when I got into, focusing on skiing in college, long story short, I realized in the ski industry, back then, it was very much a kind of racing scene.  There wasn't a lot of personality-led marketing or branding or companies. I also saw that as an athlete. Even if my wildest dreams came true and I had a great career as a professional skier, you have a shelf life as an athlete, obviously.  I saw a few of my favorite skiers getting to the point where they were looking at the next steps in their life. I saw a few of them, really struggling with what that next step was gonna be.  It was some of the biggest names of skiers back when I was starting my career and I right away was like, I want to create a cool little brand that I could grow alongside my skiing so that, if and when the shelf life of the idea of being a professional skier comes up, i'll have something else going on that will be a creative outlet, will be part of the industry and obviously income.  They both kind of happened at the same time, but I think a lot of my passion was put into the ski career, and I put in just enough effort in the brand that I knew I could convert it into being a pretty airtight program later.